Colton "Ain't No Bobby" Orr

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Dear Colton,

Your celebratory actions after your fight with Matt Carkner were unnecessary and over the top.

Sincerely,

The Chris Neil Raise the Roof Celebration

PS - It wasn't even your home game asshole!

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Mor(e)on Orr

Remember when the Leafs/Senators games actually meant something to all of the involved parties? Me neither. When the biggest lead-in story to a hockey rivalry is three staged fights and three punches, you know the rivalry is troubled. Right now, it has the intensity of a Filip Kuba bodycheck. Things are so bad, that even though the game is over, all people are talking about is the faux-fight wrestling match that took place on Saturday night.

There is this misconception though. The media and bloggers keep perpetuating this belief that Orr's three-finger victory celebrating was to indicate the scorecard in the Carkner vs. Orr rivalry. Orr was already ahead in the head-to-head fights with an indisputable 2-1 record. Fortunately for Carkner, last night's tilt would have gone to the scorecards. If this were boxing, Carkner would have won because it's all about making money by setting up the rematch.

In retrospect, Orr should have knocked Carkner out. Orr was fresh off of the bench, Carkner was at the end of the shift. The circumstances were ideal for a KO. Instead, it goes to the cards and the fight's 2-2 and Orr can't duck the next fight by asking for blood testing the night before the next fight.

So with the boxing scorecards giving Carkner the nod, here's a list of things that Carkner could have been alluding to with his three-finger salute last night:

  1. He was reminding Leafs fans of how many General Managers the organization has endured since their last playoff appearance.
  2. Colton Orr counts how many years the Leafs have to wait for their next 1st round draft pick after a fight with Matt Carkner. ~ Tim, The 6th Sens Twitter
  3. “He was probably celebrating because he had three shifts in the game or something."~ Matt Carkner
  4. He was reminding Leafs fans of how many years were left on his contract.
  5. He was simply indicating how many times he has repeated grade six.
  6. His math was off, it's been more than 3 decades since the Leafs last won a Cup.
  7. Three would be a new career high in goals for Orr.
  8. He was providing the over/under threshold for the number of wins that the Leafs would get over the remainder of the schedule.
  9. He was only referring to the fact that he wanted to be the third guy on his team -- Komisarek & Phaneuf -- to hook up with Elisha Cuthbert.
  10. Unhappy with his ice-time, Orr was just sticking it to Ron Wilson and indicating the number of goals that Canada needed to beat the US.

The 6th Sens Mailbag -- Email/Discussion of the Day

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I have one point I thought worth mentioning on the topic of 2nd round raft picks. I have seen the same argument before that few of these guys play a full season in the NHL. The usual conclusion is that 2nd round draft picks aren't worth a whole lot. I think this is the wrong way of looking at things. I think the only real conclusion we can draw from this is that most general managers are shitty drafters.

I think Murray is a good drafter (at least his current record looks promising). With that said, I think a 2nd round pick is worth more in the hands of Murray than the GM from Atlanta, Florida, Phoenix, etc. I just thought this was worth considering in regards to the two recent trades. ~ Tim, H.

That's a fair point and it's something that's often mentioned when discussing Bryan Murray's strength as a General Manager -- his ability to draft well. In the past, he's drafted Ruslan Bashkirov (2007), Patrick Wiercioch (2008), Robin Lehner and Jakub Silfverberg (2009) respectively with his second round picks. The latter three of which are generally highly regarded as future cogs of this team.

Why not play to his strengths?

Based off the move, I can only assume that he and his scouting staff are either down on this year's class of amateur prospects, or they feel that the Senators have a legitimate opportunity to advance in the postseason. I suppose there's also an opportunity for the organization to flip some depth players at the end of the season to recoup some draft picks.

I'm curious as to how the majority of The 6th Sens readership feels though, so I've put up a poll on the right hand side of the page and I'd appreciate some comments and discussion below.

Friday Grab Bag -- Relax

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There's this weird cyclical event that comes in four year spans. After each Olympic break, the Senators inadvertently stumble out of the gate. Unlike the 2006 Games in Turin, the team's struggles can't be pinned on Dominik Hasek's adductor injury but that hasn't stopped others from shitting on Pascal Leclaire. Here's a look at what some of the mainstream and bloggers takes on the Senators' goalie...

  • You have to wonder what the early hook will do to an already fragile psyche. This is pretty clearly Brian Elliott's job to lose right now and I really doubt we'll see much of Leclaire the rest of the way. ~ Sens Chirp
  • If anything, the loss to the Carolina Hurricanes has cured me of my season-long faith in Pascal Leclaire. ~ Jeremy Milks, Black Aces
  • Leclaire gave his team absolutely no chance to win this game, and the Senators really needed big stops from their goaltenders when their effort level was taken into account. ~ Mark Parisi, Silver Seven Sens
  • Pascal may be done...when you are a reaction goalie and get those "Happy Feet"...you're done! ~ Canucnik
  • Clearly Hurricanes coach Paul Maurice made the right call in net. Clouston couldn’t say the same. ~ Ken Warren, Ottawa Citizen
  • At the rate they’re going, the Senators are making GM Bryan Murray look foolish for being a buyer rather than a seller at the trade deadline. ~ Don Brennan, Bruins fanboy and a key cog of the All-Star writing trio for the Ottawa Sun

(Ed. note: Alright, so Doni B's comment really doesn't hit on Pascal Leclaire, but I couldn't help but include it. It's too ridiculous not to mention.)

A lot is being made of Ottawa's recent struggles and for good reason. Prior to the Olympic break, the team was killing it and had climbed to third place in the Eastern Conference because of an 11-game winning streak. At the time, I had a few concerns that the team was peaking a little too early, but I think that it's premature to start worrying about righting the ship just yet.

For starter's Brian Elliott has been fantastic for the past month and a half. According to Jim Hughson's blog, Elliott has posted these numbers since January 18th...

Record:: 12-3
GAVG:: 2.17
Save pctg:: .927

Maybe it's time I start to invest a little more faith and confidence in a player who has historically progressed and gotten better at each level that that he's played at. Take a glance at Elliott's career numbers (courtesy of hockeydb.com)

Season Team Lge GP A PIM Min GA EN SO GAA W L T Svs Pct
2003-04 U. of Wisconsin NCAA 6 0 0 336 12 0 0 2.14 3 3 0 124 0.912
2004-05 U. of Wisconsin NCAA 9 0 0 467 9 0 3 1.16 6 2 1 156 0.945
2005-06 U. of Wisconsin NCAA 33 1 2 2008 52 0 8 1.55 25 5 3 783 0.938
2006-07 U. of Wisconsin NCAA 36 1 0 2053 72 0 5 2.10 15 17 2 867 0.923
2006-07 Binghamton Senators AHL 8 0 0 425 30 0 0 4.24 3 4 0 233 0.886
2007-08 Ottawa Senators NHL 1 0 0 60 1 0 0 1.01 1 0 0 28 0.966
2007-08 Binghamton Senators AHL 44 0 0 2394 112 6 2 2.81 18 19 1 1206 0.915
2008-09 Ottawa Senators NHL 31 0 0 1667 77 3 1 2.77 16 8 3 709 0.902
2008-09 Binghamton Senators AHL 30 0 2 1691 65 1 2 2.31 18 8 1 816 0.926
2009-10 Ottawa Senators NHL 42 0 0 2294 100 5 3 2.62 22 14 3 984 0.910

And as James Gordon mentions in an article on the Ottawa Citizen's website, maybe part of the explanation for the Senators poor play up front has been the flu that is making its way through the Senators dressing room. Three players — Peter Regin, Ryan Shannon and Jarkko Ruutu — all missed practice Friday morning because they were ill. Centre Jesse Winchester also missed for personal reasons.

Sutton's Worth

Thanks to Puck Prospectus' Tom Awad (via ESPN Insider), I now have some semblance for how valuable Andy Sutton's addition will be for the Ottawa Senators in the standings. Here's the breakdown from Awad.

Deal: Senators get Andy Sutton (2.7 GVT in 53 games) from New York Islanders for a 2nd round pick

Analysis: Sutton figures to give the Senators more snarl on the blue line because, at 6-foot-6, he is one of the most imposing blueliners in the league. In Long Island, Sutton was given many of the tough defensive assignments, often used when faceoffs were in the Islanders zone and playing against good opposing players. The one knock against him is a lack of offensive skill, but that's not why the Senators are acquiring him. A dependable defensemen like Sutton can help reduce quality scoring chances by the opposition.

Based on Sutton's 2.7 GVT, Awad projects that his addition will translate itself into one extra point in the standings for Ottawa. One point!

The 6th Sens Podcast - Episode 14 - The Deadline Edition

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I was going to just throw together the usual spiel that's reserved for these podcasts, but I feel compelled to say something about the state of the Senators goaltending. Unlike some fans or bloggers, I'm not ready to throw Pascal Leclaire's career under the bus...yet.

After allowing 2 goals in the first period, Leclaire was given the hook by Cory Clouston after just seven minutes of play. Were the goals his fault? In my opinion no. Like Brian Elliott's start against the Rangers, I thought that this was another occurrence of the team playing poorly in front of the netminder.

But I'm not privy to the vantage points of the coaching staff. Maybe they didn't like what they saw. Ian Mendes Tweeted this Clouston was asked why he pulled Lecaire instead of calling a timeout to settle things down: "We made the right decision," he said.

Right decision or not. If the coach's confidence in Leclaire is this low, I can't help but wonder why the organization refused to send Leclaire to Binghamton on a conditioning assignment to rebuild his confidence and get him some ice-time.

At this point, Elliott deserves the number one starter's job and there's no point in keeping Leclaire on the bench. He needs to play. He needs to stop the puck. He needs the repetitions to eliminate the bad habits that he's developed by relying on his athleticism.

Anyways, I digress. The podcast. Ah, yes.

So last night, we recorded a podcast for the website. For awhile now, Tim's being pushing me to open up the phone line and field some calls from the readers. With the date of the NHL trade deadline coinciding with our studio time, Tim figured it was the opportune time to get some insightful commentary from our readers. To be honest, I was a bit reluctant to agree to the idea and it took some convincing but I do have to say, I was blown away by the calls that we had last night. It was good conversation and I hope that it prompts more of our readers to leave comments or send emails in the future.

I'd like to thank our readers -- Francois, Josh, Shawn and DHS -- for coming on the podcast last night and making it a success.

As always, you can subscribe/download/stream the episode or entire catalogue of episodes from Itunes. Or you can download the file by right-clicking and saving this file. Or you can simply stream the episode below. We hope you enjoy it.

Here's the tracklist for the podcast: Curtis Mayfield Move On Up; The Soft Pack Answer To Yourself; Samiam She Found You; The Professionals Kick Down the Door; Titus Andronicus Richard II; The Eels Gone Man; and The Nerves One Way Ticket.

Post Game Haiku #65

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Leclaire gets the hook.

"We made the right decision."

Elliott's the man?

Game Day Thread -- Senators Vs Hurricanes

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Matt Cullen's New Team (36-24-4) Vs Alexandre Picard's New Team (25-30-7) @ RBC Center, 7pm ET; Television: RDS, Rogers Sportsnet

Due to last night's events, I wasn't able to make a prediction for James Gordon's prediction panel. To read what others in the Ottawa blogosphere had to say, click here.

Here are the lines for tonight's game: Michalek-Spezza-Alfredsson; Regin-Fisher-Kovalev; Shannon-Cullen-Neil; Ruutu-Kelly-Donovan. Jesse Winchester is a healthy scratch for tonight's game and Pascal Leclaire will be making his first start since suffering an injury when Mike Fisher rang a shot off of his head in practice. It's also important to note that Erik Karlsson will be paired with Andy Sutton tonight.

Stay Classy Ottawa

Ryan Callahan was looking at the American flag, not at the scoreboard video screen, during the singing of the "Star Spangled Banner'' before last night's game.

Which is why the Team USA and Rangers winger had no idea that an individual in the Senators' game night operations decided to show video of every Canadian gold-medal winner, plus Sidney Crosby's golden goal against the Americans, as the U.S. national anthem was played.

The Canadian national anthem that followed was not accompanied by images from the Vancouver Games.

"I didn't have any idea,'' said Callahan, who scored twice in the Blueshirts' 4-1 victory over the Senators, including one off a brilliant dash down the left side at 0:22 of the second . "I don't look at the scoreboard during the anthem. I look at the flag." ~ Larry Brooks, NY Post

Wow. What a lead in non-story for a post game Rangers article. It's much ado about nothing. Here's to hanging the Canadian flag upside down at the 1992 World Series in Atlanta, or having a recorded Canadian anthem at the MLB All-Star Game. To quote John Tortorella, fuck off Larry. It's not like the Senators organization ran a video featuring Spartacat, the Montreal Canadiens logo and a ship sinking one week after Bob Gainey's daughter drowned at sea. Oh....

Kudos to Cowen

On the 25th anniversary of the Spokane Chiefs, I'd like to congratulate Jared Cowen on being named to the team's Top 25 Players in 25 Years (1985-2010) list. Jared joins an illustrious list of elite company like Brandin Cote, Valeri Bure and The Trevor Kidd.

Deadline Winners

According to the Vancouver Sun's Jim Matheson, the Ottawa Senators were deadline winners...

Before the Olympic break, they got centre Matt Cullen, who won a Cup in Carolina. He's strong on faceoffs and has some offensive pop, and they needed help on the back-end and got six-foot-six Andy Sutton from the New York Islanders. Sutton plays a Hal Gilltype of game, but is tougher.

Trade Deadline Podcast

Last night's recorded podcast will be available for download following the game. Come back and check it out then.

Deadline Analysis

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Watching the 2010 NHL Trade Deadline unfold was a lot like watching the Ottawa Senators' power play these days -- predictably orchestrated and without result. I didn't expect much activity today and for good reason. Between Matt Cullen's acquisition before the Olympic roster freeze and yesterday's trade involving Andy Sutton, there simply wasn't much left for Bryan Murray to do. With a top six forward and a depth defenceman (Ed. note: the new fad that has seemingly replaced the infamous and elusive puck moving defenceman) in tow, Murray got the jump on his competition and came away from the deadline with some warm bodies. By moving deftly and with purpose, Murray avoided the John Muckler mistake of striking out on the big names and drinking enough Wild Turkey to convince himself that overpaying for second rate players was a good idea. Like many other Senators fans on deadline day, I've been conditioned to expect the worst.

Whether it's the acquisition of a Peter Bondra, a stud like Yuha Ylonen or a plan-D like Tyler Arnason, it's rare that Ottawa ever acquires a commodity at the deadline who kills it during their time with the organization. But something weird happened this season. Unlike in previous years, yesterday didn't leave me with that prevailing sense of dread that I've grown accustomed to.

It may have something to do with the fact that none of Ottawa's Eastern Conference rivals really improved themselves that much. Does anyone actually believe for a second that Joe Corvo's fragile psyche and endless giveaways will resolve Washington's defence and goaltending situations?

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Look at him. Is there something about this guy that evokes confidence?

With news that Ray Emery's career may be in jeopardy, Philadelphia maintained their time-honoured tradition of shitting the bed when it comes time to acquire a serviceable goaltender.

The Sabres brought in Raffi Torres -- a unique mashup of bleached hair, Apolo Ohno's landing strip and Chris Neil (circa 2005). This guy's a couple star tattooes short of being another Corvo. At least he'll fit in well with the rest of the Buffalo populace.

Okay, I'll be honest. New Jersey scares the shit out of me a little bit with their addition of Ilya Kovalchuk. But even he has struggled a bit to develop some chemistry with his linemates. If Kovalchuk's production continues to wane, questions of whether Jacques El Chupacabra Lemaire is parasitically sucking the offensive life out of Kovy will inevitably arise.

Pittsburgh added Alexei Ponikarovsky and Jordon Leopold which isn't really that dissimilar from what Ottawa did.

My Take on Ottawa's Moves

The day that Ottawa dealt for Sutton, I said that I would reserve judgment until the conclusion of the deadline so that I could see what moves Ottawa had made. Now that the deadline has passed, I feel like I'm copping out when I say that I can't really pinpoint my feelings until the conclusion of the NHL playoffs.

Naturally, there will be some sect of the fan base that will be displeased with the fact that Murray gave up two second round picks to get what likely will be two rental players. And not without reason. A few days ago during an interview with the Team 1200,  Bryan Murray spent a good portion of time lauding how well off the team will be in a few years when Erik Karlsson, Jared Cowen and Patrick Wiercioch have developed. Why not follow the Los Angeles Kings' model of hording draft picks and perpetually building for the future by augmenting this trio with as many young players and prospects as possible?

Maybe because the value of a second round pick isn't exactly as high as some are lead to believe. According to a recent article on ESPN,

Based off of NHL drafts from 1996 to 2006, his chances of playing at least 82 games in his career are about one-in-four. In comparison, first-round picks make it to that plateau about two-thirds of the time.

The drop in "success" rate from the first to the second round is staggering -- about 40 percent. After that, the rate at which players make it to the NHL drops less sharply.

We analyzed the skaters in the 1996 to 2006 drafts. (This gives young players three years to get to the NHL and compile stats.) We looked at players who played at least one NHL game, and those who played a season's worth of games (82).

Rd.Total DraftedMade to NHLPct.Played 82 GamesPct.
1 288 257 89.2% 190 66.0%
2 329 194 59.0% 85 25.8%
3 301 132 43.9% 65 21.6%
4 314 132 42.0% 39 12.4%
5 303 79 26.1% 30 9.9%
6 281 69 24.6% 30 10.7%
7 303 70 23.1% 29 9.6%
8 241 62 25.7% 30 12.4%
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52 59 23.4% 19 7.5%

As the above numbers indicate, second rounders just aren't a sure thing. So even if Cullen and Sutton turn out to be the second coming of Ylonen or Greg DeVries, a good sample size indicates that there's a 75-percent chance that the picks would have bombed anyways. Besides, Ottawa will still have the luxury of maintaining team control over expendable assets like Brian Lee and Chris Campoli. While they may not fetch second rounders on their own, they may be able to be packaged to recoup some of the lost draft picks before the 2010 Entry Draft.

The 6th Sens Podcast -- Deadline Edition

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Attention valued readers:


For tonight's podcast recording, Tim and I will be taking some calls from readers who want to throw in their 2 cents on today's deadline, playoff repercussions, the Matt Cullen/Andy Sutton moves and anything else that you want to hit on. If you're interested in talking some Senators hockey with us, email us at This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. and give us a name/phone number/time availability that you'd want to be reached at.

 

Thanks,

Nichols

The 6th Sens' Live NHL Trade Deadline Coverage

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Post Game Haiku #64

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Open the door for Leclaire.
I would be pissed too.
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