Last night I posted some of the PHWA voting totals for the NHL Awards that the Senators’ players and Paul MacLean were finalists for. Well, as it turns out, a few of Ottawa’s other players also received some votes, so I’m going to take the time to acknowledge these votes.
GM Bryan Murray was rewarded with two second place votes and four third place votes for the job that his staff did retooling the Ottawa Senators. It’s unfortunate that the PHWA voting process was conducted prior to the start of the Stanley Cup Playoffs, otherwise Paul Holmgren may have received more credit for turning the Los Angeles Kings into a Cup winner.
Alfredsson (1-2-3-2-6), Karlsson (1-0-0-0-0) and Spezza (0-0-0-1-0) all received votes for the Lady Byng Trophy. Spezza also finished sixth (0-2-14-11-17) in Hart Trophy balloting while Karlsson finished eighth (0-0-4-7-11).
Jared Cowen received some fifth place votes for the Calder Trophy while Colin Greening didn't receive any support.
Perhaps the biggest surprise of the evening was the third place vote that Filip Kuba was given for determing the NHL's First and Second All-Star Teams. Well, unless you're talking to Jack Edwards...
Erik Karlsson over Shea Weber for the Norris?A bad day for the argument that the Professional Hockey Writers Association's has a clue.— Jack Edwards (@RealJackEdwards) June 21, 2012
Or Stan Fischler...
Sadly, they're not alone in this opinion. Yesterday I poked fun at the five unknown individuals who had Karlsson ranked fifth on their ballots but a reader named Michael emailed in and tabulated the number of total first place votes - determining that 149 PHWA ballots were cast. In other words, totalling Karlsson's votes, he only received votes on 143 of the 149 ballots. Six people left him off their ballots. Put in perspective, Shea Weber appeared on 146 ballots and Chara 148.
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Still in the Nash Sweepstakes?
According to the Team 1200's AJ Jakubec, who's in Pittsburgh along with Lee Versage covering the event for the radio station, says that the buzz is that the Senators are still in on Nash.
The suggested asking price will apparently involve some combination of Bishop or Lehner, Nick Foligno, Mika Zibanejad, Patrick Wiercioch and this year's first round pick. Puke.
I would link to Jakubec's tweets but apparently Twitter is down across all platforms. TWITTER IS DOWN!
Sorry, just to confirm, was that the real Jack Edwards or somebody else just pretending to be the biggest donkey dick piece of crap the league has ever seen?
Earlier you guys posted about some NYR reporter who was going to vote Dan Girardi first and not vote Karlsson, but put Karlsson on his Hart ballot. Forget who though...
Nothing in the piece about this but with all this talk about Lehner and Bishop being in play. Is it possible that one of them gets packaged and Ottawa drafts Subban as the replacement?
Also there is the possibility that Grigorenko will suffer a major slide in the draft. With the very long shot (most mock drafts/rankings seem to have him around 8th now) that he falls to a spot where Murray would be in a position to make a move/wait for him at 15th. Could we see a backflip from Dorian in front of the cameras tomorrow?
@ChrisBurke I was at a 67's game where Subban was pulled after the score was 8-0. I forgot the final tally but it was something like 11-3. Not sold on Subban AT ALL. Codi Cici dominated that game.
@slavitch I'm not saying that I want Subban to come to Ottawa at all. I was just speculating on whether or not he was invited to practice with the organization so they knew what their options were if Bishop or Lehner were traded.
No no no. Now that the team finally has depth in goal, even if they draft Subban they should keep Lehner and Bishop. In the first place, Subban still has a long way to go before he's ready to play in the AHL, let alone the NHL, Lehner is still a work-in-progress, and Bishop hasn't even been a longtime NHL back-up.
Murray sacrificed some of the team's depth on defense by trading one of its best defensive prospects for Turris. Now, the trade was a good one, but that doesn't take away the fact that it has disrupted the blueline pipeline.
In a couple of years one of the goalies could probably be moved without harming depth at the position.
@jaskwith67 I'm not saying that trading either of them is what I want to see happen. I'm just saying that with Lehner and Bishop supposedly on the block they could be looking at Subban as the replacement in the pipeline. Though the possibility of either of them being moved dropped drastically when Murray dropped out of the Nash sweepstakes.
IMHO what should be done with the goalies is that either next summer or the one after that (depending how much confidence management has in lehner and bishop) Anderson gets traded. Opening up the door for a solid tandem of Bishop and Lehner similar to Elliot and Halak this year. But as I already pointed out; this heavily depends on how much confidence Murray and the team have in the two goaltenders come next (or next next) summer.
As for the Turris trade mucking about with the defensive pipeline. I'd make that trade again. Turris is imo the best young forward we have in the organization and With Karlsson and Cowen still on the blue line I wouldn't say it left us in as bad a situation as say the Oilers.
What I see happening this summer is Murray making a huge push for soon to be UFA Justin Shultz. He would fit in almost perfectly where Rundblad would have in the pipeline. In the event that he doesn't come to Ottawa then I would see Murray looking to make a trade rather than testing the FA market.